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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2013.02.18 14:15:00 -
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Roime wrote:If ships were free, would there be more pvp?
By the looks of SISI when it's up, I don't think so.
So where's the real problem?
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.18 14:45:00 -
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Danu Charante wrote:Jaden Li wrote:
Wealth and PVP Skill are not proportional to a player's skillpoints. Exponentially increasing clone costs is a broken game design based on this false assumption.
Yes, change the mechanics of the game to suit Character Bazaar bought bads and people who log in for an hour a week.
Care to explain the "people who log in for an hour a week" part please?
As far as you are concerned their money is as good as yours, why do you feel you should have any sort of privilege for whatever unreasonable reason?
-by unreasonable read: CCP cares less how much time someone spends playing their game, sub price is the same.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2013.02.18 15:41:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:People who like excuses not to PvP would just find new excuses if you made clones free. Implants is my bet.
You can choose to pvp with implants or not, this is not a factor preventing "some" from pvp.
Jump clone timer and POD cost, are.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2013.02.18 22:50:00 -
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TheBlueMonkey wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:baltec1 wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:People who like excuses not to PvP would just find new excuses if you made clones free. Implants is my bet. You can choose to pvp with implants or not, this is not a factor preventing "some" from pvp. Jump clone timer and POD cost, are. I'm almost on 90mil sp and pod cost does nothing to stop me making other people explode. Mainly because I go out with the expectation that I'll make more of their stuff die before I die. That and the isk coming in from that covers losses
Yes tell us more about T1 frigates you fly in null sec with your 90M Sp implanted clone is not a problem for you.
Or how happy you are to pay 20M for only pod price without implants if you really pvp in null and actually fight weekly for about at least 3 to 4 pods.
Let me remind you: you're playing with different people in an MMO that might actually think you're not the best at what you do?
I don't see what's really that awesome in your comment, but if you really like to have your ass wiped for fun I'm sure there are some funny folks around ready to help you out.
- Sp does not determinate how much isk you can do with your character or not. Since price is not considered as balance factor lets talk about pvp, and in this single point, timer for it self it's already negative.
If you factor the punishment for training your sole character telling you: "no you will not fly small ships anymore because you shouldn't, take it or leave it"- has no sense at all for any one with more than 15 IQ, and dammit even a monkey has that much.
Again I'd say, get rid of clone costs and increase market/contracts trading fees. This will make more isk get out of the game than any actual number of pods loss.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.18 22:58:00 -
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Pewty McPew wrote:Takseen wrote:I have a low SP alt for all my pvp shenanigans, has negligible clone costs Is this the norm for PVPers? Use a cheap low SP alt. Are they any PVPers who use their 100 mil + SP main to do the killing? Or when you get to that point you have others do the killing for you.
If they don't it's probably because the mechanic of clone prices is bad?
Or do you really want to convince anyone with normal brains and IQ the smarter thing to do is to train alts for pvp when you already have one...?
Simple verification: CCP can open surveys and know a little bit more about this than you and me together.
I bet 1 billion the higher SP players would agree for progressive clone cost accordingly to ship loss (sp required for current fitted ship loss) or removal of clone cost but increase market fees.
Would you take the bet?
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.19 00:36:00 -
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Takseen wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:
In lowsec.
People pvping in a pvp friendly area? Inconceivable!
Tell me more about low sec bubbles, dictor bbles at gates, bombs etc. I'm curious now.
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